C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

Bob Piska

CBuilder Developer

Sat, 16 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

The C++ Builder Dircect Internet news application is causing C++ Builder
V4.0 to GPF. How do I stop this application from starting? It seems to
start every time I start C++ Builder.

I am assuming C++ Builder is GPFing because of the firewall requiring a
password.

Team

CBuilder Developer

Sat, 16 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

Open up the registry and find the

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Borland\C++Builder\4.0\Known IDE packages

key. find the bcbdrt40.bpl entry and delete it. Now BCB Direct will no longer
load up. Of course all normal precautions when dealing with the registry should
be done.

Quote

Bob Piskac wrote:

> The C++ Builder Dircect Internet news application is causing C++ Builder
> V4.0 to GPF. How do I stop this application from starting? It seems to
> start every time I start C++ Builder.

> I am assuming C++ Builder is GPFing because of the firewall requiring a
> password.

--
Jeff Overcash (TeamB)
(Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You)
Mild mannered supermen are held in kryptonite, and the wise and foolish
{*word*269}s giggle with their bodies glowing bright. Through the door a harvest
feast is lit by candlelight; it's the bottom of the staircase that spirals out
of sight.
(new classic Genesis) Carpet Crawlers 1999
--

Bob Piska

CBuilder Developer

Sat, 16 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

This registry entry does not exist on my machine. I have the PRO version.
All I see is...

AdminInstall
UninstInfo

I started C++ Builder V4.0 about ten times and it seems to have stopped
loading the C++ Builder Direct application for now.

I wish Borland/Inprise would test their internet application before loading
software on my machine. They should also document how to stop it from
starting up.

Quote

Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote in message <37F0D2C0.350C6...@onramp.net>...
>Open up the registry and find the

> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Borland\C++Builder\4.0\Known IDE packages

>key. find the bcbdrt40.bpl entry and delete it. Now BCB Direct will no
longer
>load up. Of course all normal precautions when dealing with the registry
should
>be done.

>Bob Piskac wrote:

>> The C++ Builder Dircect Internet news application is causing C++ Builder
>> V4.0 to GPF. How do I stop this application from starting? It seems to
>> start every time I start C++ Builder.

>> I am assuming C++ Builder is GPFing because of the firewall requiring a
>> password.

>--
>Jeff Overcash (TeamB)
> (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You)
>Mild mannered supermen are held in kryptonite, and the wise and foolish
>{*word*269}s giggle with their bodies glowing bright. Through the door a
harvest
>feast is lit by candlelight; it's the bottom of the staircase that spirals
out
>of sight.
> (new classic Genesis) Carpet Crawlers 1999
>--

Team

CBuilder Developer

Sat, 16 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

Are you using NT? THen it is under HKEY_USER IIRC.

Quote

Bob Piskac wrote:

> This registry entry does not exist on my machine. I have the PRO version.
> All I see is...

> AdminInstall
> UninstInfo

> I started C++ Builder V4.0 about ten times and it seems to have stopped
> loading the C++ Builder Direct application for now.

> I wish Borland/Inprise would test their internet application before loading
> software on my machine. They should also document how to stop it from
> starting up.

> Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote in message <37F0D2C0.350C6...@onramp.net>...
> >Open up the registry and find the

> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Borland\C++Builder\4.0\Known IDE packages

> >key. find the bcbdrt40.bpl entry and delete it. Now BCB Direct will no
> longer
> >load up. Of course all normal precautions when dealing with the registry
> should
> >be done.

> >Bob Piskac wrote:

> >> The C++ Builder Dircect Internet news application is causing C++ Builder
> >> V4.0 to GPF. How do I stop this application from starting? It seems to
> >> start every time I start C++ Builder.

> >> I am assuming C++ Builder is GPFing because of the firewall requiring a
> >> password.

> >--
> >Jeff Overcash (TeamB)
> > (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You)
> >Mild mannered supermen are held in kryptonite, and the wise and foolish
> >{*word*269}s giggle with their bodies glowing bright. Through the door a
> harvest
> >feast is lit by candlelight; it's the bottom of the staircase that spirals
> out
> >of sight.
> > (new classic Genesis) Carpet Crawlers 1999
> >--

--
Jeff Overcash (TeamB)
(Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You)
Mild mannered supermen are held in kryptonite, and the wise and foolish
{*word*269}s giggle with their bodies glowing bright. Through the door a harvest
feast is lit by candlelight; it's the bottom of the staircase that spirals out
of sight.
(new classic Genesis) Carpet Crawlers 1999
--

Bob Piska

CBuilder Developer

Sat, 16 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

Thank you!

Quote

Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote in message <37F0E609.B8345...@onramp.net>...
>Are you using NT? THen it is under HKEY_USER IIRC.

>Bob Piskac wrote:

>> This registry entry does not exist on my machine. I have the PRO
version.
>> All I see is...

>> AdminInstall
>> UninstInfo

Team

CBuilder Developer

Sat, 16 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:06:04 -0400, "Bob Piskac" <rpis...@pbsoftware.com>
wrote:

Quote

>I wish Borland/Inprise would test their internet application before loading
>software on my machine. They should also document how to stop it from
>starting up.

Well, this feature works properly on a large number of systems. I would
guess that your firewall uses a non-standard feature and is the true cause
of the crash...

Jerry Bloomfield (TeamB)
--
Jerry Bloomfield JersW...@wwa.com
Proud Member of Borland's TeamB
"We'll do anything if you don't pay us."

Team

CBuilder Developer

Sat, 16 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

Quote

Jerry Bloomfield (TeamB) wrote in message ...
>Well, this feature works properly on a large number of systems. I would
>guess that your firewall uses a non-standard feature and is the true cause
>of the crash...

I disagree. If my program misbehaves because I didn't foresee your
environment, I could blame your environment, but it's really my lack of
foresight that caused the crash.

With the Builder Direct, there may be a bug, or maybe his machine has a
corrupt dll or bad install or any of dozens of things. I'm not in a
position to say. But if being behind a firewall is the cause of a crash,
then it's a bug in Builder Direct.

Chris (TeamB)

Heiko Weis

CBuilder Developer

Sun, 17 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

Hi Jerry,

I disagree too. C++Builder Direct doesn't work on my machine.
The only thing I get is an empty box with nothing in it.

What's wrong ?

Jerry Bloomfield (TeamB) <JersW...@wwa.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
znXxN15cair6jPPzHAt9womay...@4ax.com...

Quote

> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:06:04 -0400, "Bob Piskac" <rpis...@pbsoftware.com>
> wrote:

> >I wish Borland/Inprise would test their internet application before
loading
> >software on my machine. They should also document how to stop it from
> >starting up.

> Well, this feature works properly on a large number of systems. I would
> guess that your firewall uses a non-standard feature and is the true cause
> of the crash...

> Jerry Bloomfield (TeamB)
> --
> Jerry Bloomfield JersW...@wwa.com
> Proud Member of Borland's TeamB
> "We'll do anything if you don't pay us."

Nicola Musatt

CBuilder Developer

Sun, 17 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

Quote

Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB) wrote:

> I disagree. If my program misbehaves because I didn't foresee your
> environment, I could blame your environment, but it's really my lack of
> foresight that caused the crash.

Especially if it happens to be an unrequested feature of a product I
bought, which I find annoying and which never led me to useful
information I was not previously aware of. It is also a reminder of how
a part of the money I spent on BCB was wasted instead of going into real
product improvement.

Is "autogoal" an international term (at least in the soccer playing
areas of the world)?

Best regards,
Nicola Musatti

J.A. Bijsterbosc

CBuilder Developer

Sun, 17 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

Hello Jeff,

Jeff Overcash (TeamB) <overc...@onramp.net> schreef in artikel
<37F0D2C0.350C6...@onramp.net>...

Quote

> Open up the registry and find the

> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Borland\C++Builder\4.0\Known IDE packages

> key. find the bcbdrt40.bpl entry and delete it.

Out of curiosity, and since this question comes up like clockwork<g> I'm
wondering why I never had trouble with this? The above entry _is_ in my
register, but the only time bcb4 prof. wanted to connect to internet was
after installing (full install) to let me register online... The only thing
after that is I noticed there's a new connect form when I want to connect
to my ISP, that tries three times to connect if an attempt fails. Not a bad
addition I might add<g>. I don't know if this is related, but if so, there
is a checkbox to automatic connect that's obviously switched off here...

--
Greetings from cloudy Amsterdam

Jan

email: bijs...@worldonline.nl
http://home.worldonline.nl/~bijster

Linda Sherma

CBuilder Developer

Sun, 17 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

Quote

"Jerry Bloomfield (TeamB)" wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:06:04 -0400, "Bob Piskac" <rpis...@pbsoftware.com>
> wrote:

> >I wish Borland/Inprise would test their internet application before loading
> >software on my machine. They should also document how to stop it from
> >starting up.

> Well, this feature works properly on a large number of systems. I would
> guess that your firewall uses a non-standard feature and is the true cause
> of the crash...

Personally, I wish they wouldn't be so presumptuous as to install
something like this in the first place, not without giving me a better
option for removing it than having to hack the registry. It's bad
manners if nothing else, sort of like using someone's telephone without
asking their permission.

Lin
linsh...@gte.net

John SE Szakmeiste

CBuilder Developer

Sun, 17 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

I find it irritating as well. Maybe having it as a tool to help you locate or see
new information would be great, but making it pop up automatically takes away from
the software's intended purpose.

-John

Quote

"Jeff Overcash (TeamB)" wrote:
> Open up the registry and find the

> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Borland\C++Builder\4.0\Known IDE packages

> key. find the bcbdrt40.bpl entry and delete it. Now BCB Direct will no longer
> load up. Of course all normal precautions when dealing with the registry should
> be done.

> Bob Piskac wrote:

> > The C++ Builder Dircect Internet news application is causing C++ Builder
> > V4.0 to GPF. How do I stop this application from starting? It seems to
> > start every time I start C++ Builder.

> > I am assuming C++ Builder is GPFing because of the firewall requiring a
> > password.

> --
> Jeff Overcash (TeamB)
> (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You)
> Mild mannered supermen are held in kryptonite, and the wise and foolish
> {*word*269}s giggle with their bodies glowing bright. Through the door a harvest
> feast is lit by candlelight; it's the bottom of the staircase that spirals out
> of sight.
> (new classic Genesis) Carpet Crawlers 1999
> --

Team

CBuilder Developer

Sun, 17 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:40:41 -0400, "Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB)"

Quote

<ch...@uzdavinis.com> wrote:
>... But if being behind a firewall is the cause of a crash,
>then it's a bug in Builder Direct.

The issue is that it does not crash behind *all* fire walls. I currently
work through 2 different ones, and do not have a problem with Builder
crashing (or C++Builder Direct crashing).

This poster did not say it, but a previous poster who reported a similar
experience was getting an Access Violation in their WINSOCK layer. I fail
to see how a WINSOCK error could be a Builder problem. Granted, I assumed
that this person was experiencing the same error since they did not provide
enough information to show differently...

Jerry Bloomfield (TeamB)
--
Jerry Bloomfield JersW...@wwa.com
Proud Member of Borland's TeamB
"We'll do anything if you don't pay us."

Linda Sherma

CBuilder Developer

Sun, 17 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

Quote

John SE Szakmeister wrote:

> I find it irritating as well. Maybe having it as a tool to help you locate or see
> new information would be great, but making it pop up automatically takes away from
> the software's intended purpose.

Besides, they do have the mailing list. Is there something wrong with
notifying us the old-fashioned way, or is it not {*word*226} enough?

Lin
linsh...@gte.net

Team

CBuilder Developer

Sun, 17 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Re:C++Builder V4.0 C++ Builder Direct

The version that comes with D5 (so will probably come with BCB5) gives more
control on how that thing works. I beleive you can turn it of with a check
box. Definately you can set how often it checks. I agree that this should be
an easily disabled feature (which currently it is not).

Writing an IDE Expert to allow for this actually would not be all that
difficult. If I have time I will look at doing that and putting it up on
CodeCentral.

Quote

John SE Szakmeister wrote:

> I find it irritating as well. Maybe having it as a tool to help you locate or see
> new information would be great, but making it pop up automatically takes away from
> the software's intended purpose.

> -John

--
Jeff Overcash (TeamB)
(Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You)
Mild mannered supermen are held in kryptonite, and the wise and foolish
{*word*269}s giggle with their bodies glowing bright. Through the door a harvest
feast is lit by candlelight; it's the bottom of the staircase that spirals out
of sight.
(new classic Genesis) Carpet Crawlers 1999
--

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