bm> I think, perhaps, an even more appropriate term than "lightbars" or
 bm> "matrix" or just plain "menu" would be "pulldown menu."  You might not
 bm> actually be using a full windows-style pulldown menu interface, but it
 bm> is essentially the same thing: using the arrow keys (or mouse) to
 bm> move th selection bar up or down the list of options. Also, back to
 bm> your bbs references, oblivion/2 uses that term as well.

True enough.  I just got in the habit of "lightbars" since most bbses don't
have _that_ kinda menu...

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