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Daniel

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file

Hi,
I need the turbo pascal 5.5 help file "turbo.hlp" please
Can anyone send me the file or tell me where I can download it please?

          Thanks
           Daniel

 
Rich Pasc

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

Re:need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file


Quote
Daniel wrote:
> I need the turbo pascal 5.5 help file "turbo.hlp" please
> Can anyone send me the file or tell me where I can download it please?

Visit http://community.borland.com/museum/ from which you can download
http://community.borland.com/museum/borland/software/TP55.zip

     - Rich

Dr John Stockto

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

Re:need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file


JRS:  In article <37BC0E06.2...@best.com> of Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:00:38
in news:comp.lang.pascal.borland, Rich Pasco <pa...@best.com> wrote:

Quote
>Daniel wrote:

>> I need the turbo pascal 5.5 help file "turbo.hlp" please
>> Can anyone send me the file or tell me where I can download it please?

>Visit http://community.borland.com/museum/ from which you can download
>http://community.borland.com/museum/borland/software/TP55.zip

IIRC, not everyone reads the unzipped README with sufficient care to see
that things like turbo.hlp are archived into parcels and these parcels
are further zipped into TP55.zip.

Also IIRC, once one has unarchived TP55.zip one finds another
unarchiver.

Perhaps Borland should put an old non-zipped or self-extracting unzipper
in their Museum!

--
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Osmo Ronkan

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

Re:need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file


In article <7BLgNDHxmFv3E...@merlyn.demon.co.uk>,
Dr John Stockton  <j...@merlyn.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Quote

>IIRC, not everyone reads the unzipped README with sufficient care to see
>that things like turbo.hlp are archived into parcels and these parcels
>are further zipped into TP55.zip.

>Also IIRC, once one has unarchived TP55.zip one finds another
>unarchiver.

>Perhaps Borland should put an old non-zipped or self-extracting unzipper
>in their Museum!

Everyone should have an unzipper of their own. That is a basic tool that
every computer should have.

Osmo

Gautie

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

Re:need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file


Quote
> >Perhaps Borland should put an old non-zipped or self-extracting unzipper
> >in their Museum!
> Everyone should have an unzipper of their own. That is a basic tool that
> every computer should have.

Better: a Turbo unzipper...

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/African_Chief/sources.htm

;-) G.

Dr John Stockto

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

Re:need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file


JRS:  In article <7pjm1i$im...@kruuna.Helsinki.FI> of Fri, 20 Aug 1999
16:43:14 in news:comp.lang.pascal.borland, Osmo Ronkanen

Quote
<ronka...@cc.helsinki.fi> wrote:
>In article <7BLgNDHxmFv3E...@merlyn.demon.co.uk>,
>Dr John Stockton  <j...@merlyn.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>IIRC, not everyone reads the unzipped README with sufficient care to see
>>that things like turbo.hlp are archived into parcels and these parcels
>>are further zipped into TP55.zip.

>>Also IIRC, once one has unarchived TP55.zip one finds another
>>unarchiver.

>>Perhaps Borland should put an old non-zipped or self-extracting unzipper
>>in their Museum!

>Everyone should have an unzipper of their own. That is a basic tool that
>every computer should have.

You have a tendency to assume that all users have only new systems.
AFAIK, an *ordinary* Win3.x user may have an unzipper, but may well not
know about it.

My Godson's family home, for example, has a Win3.1 486sx20 still, with
4MB RAM and 100MB HDD.  Now that the chicks have mostly left home, I
doubt whether anyone there knows that they have the unzipper I gave
them.  But the parents have the ability to learn TP5.5, if they so
choose.

Remember that Borland themselves, in distributing TP/BP/D on disc, have
not AFAIR assumed that the user can unzip; they have compressed stuff on
the disc, and the install process deals with it.

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Osmo Ronkan

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

Re:need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file


In article <oM30OMJAWbv3E...@merlyn.demon.co.uk>,
Dr John Stockton  <j...@merlyn.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Quote

>Remember that Borland themselves, in distributing TP/BP/D on disc, have
>not AFAIR assumed that the user can unzip; they have compressed stuff on
>the disc, and the install process deals with it.

Apples and oranges. Comparing disk sold to downloaded files makes little
sense. Anyone who downloads should have unzipper. period. By your
argument all files should be distributed as self-extracting archives.

Osmo

Yusuf Motar

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

Re:need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file


Quote
Dr John Stockton wrote:
> You have a tendency to assume that all users have only new systems.
> AFAIK, an *ordinary* Win3.x user may have an unzipper, but may well not
> know about it.

> My Godson's family home, for example, has a Win3.1 486sx20 still, with
> 4MB RAM and 100MB HDD.  Now that the chicks have mostly left home, I
> doubt whether anyone there knows that they have the unzipper I gave
> them.  But the parents have the ability to learn TP5.5, if they so
> choose.

Incidentally, what are these clueless people doing, trying to learn Pascal anyway
then?  You have to take small steps .... learn about batch files, learn about DOS,
heck, even learn about BASIC if you must - and *then* go on to Pascal.  If a person
does not know about the existence of unzippers on his/her own machine, then he/she
is far too clueless to use Pascal.

 ....... BTW I doubt that the aforementioned parents will have any success in
learning about Pascal if they do not first understand DOS and the programs that go
with it.....understand the foundation first.

All people should have an unzipper.  It is *not* a luxury anymore, it is a
necessity.  By the argument you use, everyone should make self-extracting zips so
that the fools amongst us do not have to deal with the horrors and technicality of
learning how to use WinZip -- erroneous thinking, with the masses paying for the
ignorance of the few.

-=Yusuf=- rants

Frederi

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

Re:need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file


Quote
Yusuf Motara wrote:
>  ....... BTW I doubt that the aforementioned parents will have any success in
> learning about Pascal if they do not first understand DOS and the programs that go
> with it.....understand the foundation first.

Why not? I am sure many people restrict themselves to solving mathematical problems
with a programming language and do not even want to program applications. There is no
need to understand DOS for that.
Prattara

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

Re:need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file


Quote
Yusuf Motara wrote:
>BTW I doubt that the aforementioned parents will have any success
>in learning about Pascal if they do not first understand DOS and the >programs

that go with it.....understand the foundation first.

     Come on Yusuf, get real.   I guess programming didn't exist before DOS?  I
learned TP5.0 long before I learned anything about the internals of DOS, and
this prompted me to teach myself more and more of how everything works
together, but then I'm the curious type.  The point is, to learn the basics of
pascal programming doesn't require an intimate knowledge of  DOS, or any OS for
that matter.  That's why Pascal was developed in the first place.

Antoine Lec

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

Re:need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file


Yusuf Motara ha escrit:

Quote

> Incidentally, what are these clueless people doing, trying to learn Pascal anyway
> then?  You have to take small steps .... learn about batch files, learn about DOS,
> heck, even learn about BASIC if you must - and *then* go on to Pascal.  If a person
> does not know about the existence of unzippers on his/her own machine, then he/she
> is far too clueless to use Pascal.

While I agree on the general subject (unzipping programs is a must have these days),
I disagree with your reasonment here.

Turbo Pascal IDE is (was <sigh>) successful just because that: it comes with an
*integrated* environment. No need to know DOS, batchs or Basic to begin using Pascal.

And just for that reason, a lot of institutions did use that package to teach
Pascal to programming apprentices.  Which is a big win over the past situation
where Basic was used instead.

Antoine

Aras

Delphi Developer
Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT

Re:need turbo pascal 5.5. hlp file


There is a site that has the full edition of Borland Pascal 7.0 and the
SR-1 path

the url is:

disk 1:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/2898/tp/tp7/TP7-D1.ZIP
disk 2:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/2898/tp/tp7/TP7-D2.ZIP

Altogether its about 16 Mb, have fun downloading, but please in the future
try
and buy your own

Arash

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Daniel wrote:
> Hi,
> I need the turbo pascal 5.5 help file "turbo.hlp" please
> Can anyone send me the file or tell me where I can download it please?

>           Thanks
>            Daniel

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