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Abdullah Kauchali
Delphi Developer |
Abdullah Kauchali
Delphi Developer |
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!2005-01-25 06:09:01 AM delphi142 Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes: QuoteIs it? With a few exceptions, like Dennis, Will, a few others, and |
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 06:10:14 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Abdullah Kauchali writes:
Quote>I'd guess it all large enough numbers to make it a viable target for Borland? -- Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de "Ask people why they have deer heads on their walls and they tell you it's because they're such beautiful animals. I think my wife is beautiful, but I only have photographs of her on the wall." -- George Carlin |
Brion L. Webster
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 07:21:08 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
QuoteAbdullah Kauchali writes: to VB(Visual Basic) (the only other choice I had at the time) that it was inconceivable I would go anywhere else. When I switched jobs, I maintained Delphi use because of the legion of technical superiorities, against a strong pro-MS wave (actually, I was told to use VB, MS Access 97, or, shudder, Oracle Forms). I personally couldn't give a hoot whether or not Delphi 64 ever comes out. Until the server that is bought for me is Win64/Opteron, and my Win32 Delphi compiled apps won't run. Not knowing whether or not I will have a Delphi option then does make me nervous. Assuming Borland will get there eventually, will they get there in time for me? For whenever my buyer decides I will use the new equipment? If Borland's answer is to go .NET, and let the JITTER worry about it, then why not go VS.NET? I know MS will release VS.64 with Win64. It won't be anywhere near their target date, but I know it'll come. And if I have to abandon most of my legacy code to go .NET, then I might as well abandon it all. that is my fear, my worry. For now, I maintain my software assurance. -Brion |
Nick Hodges [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 07:21:23 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Abdullah Kauchali writes:
QuoteThe real choice would be a recompile to 64 bit. QuoteIt's disappointing that you seem unable to understand in simple terms QuoteBy making these unfortunate statements you only QuoteAll our .NET applications are Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- www.lemanix.com/nick |
Nick Hodges [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 07:24:26 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Abdullah Kauchali writes:
QuoteSame here. But the silence from the official people in this matter is compiler? If they did that, they'd never get any work done. Borland's position on this is clear. You don't like it. It sure would be nice if you'd at least accept it, and stop acting like people are being "silent" on the matter, or that we "don't understand" or whatever other pile of baloney you want to put out. QuoteFair enough. Isn't it time to listen now to the 64 bit requests listened. And listened. And listened. And listened. And listened. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- www.lemanix.com/nick |
Nick Hodges [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 07:25:34 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Abdullah Kauchali writes:
QuoteFears and concerns need to be please, quit pretending that it /isn't/ clear. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- www.lemanix.com/nick |
Nick Hodges [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 07:26:55 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Abdullah Kauchali writes:
QuoteThrowing Quote>I'd guess it all -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- www.lemanix.com/nick |
Nick Hodges [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 07:27:37 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Abdullah Kauchali writes:
QuoteThe loud silence from Borland is making the community a bit uneasy. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- www.lemanix.com/nick |
Nick Hodges [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 07:28:35 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Mike Swaim writes:
QuoteWhat percentage of the deployed PCs out there will be running Win64 Answer: /Nobody knows/. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- www.lemanix.com/nick |
David Clegg
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 07:29:37 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Nick Hodges [TeamB] writes:
QuoteOh, we've listend. And listened. And listened. And listened. And -- Cheers, David Clegg XXXX@XXXXX.COM |
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 07:33:13 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Abdullah Kauchali writes:
QuoteYes. My alternatives *have been* clear. All our .NET applications Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de "If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
Jan Derk
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 07:50:22 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
QuoteFor instance, above, you assume that the size of a string under 64 bit I made an assumption that most people would not go over that 2 billion characters limit. Sorry for being so presumptuous ;) QuoteWho knows, it may be still example code does not do a very good job proving the complexity of the issue though. Quote(who knows, new strings might even be Unicode - so the win32 Unicode support. Or would it be OS-X support? can not make up my mind again, damn... Good thing nobody asks me what I want. Jan Derk |
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 08:00:01 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Jan Derk writes:
QuoteRudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes: It may simply be that in Delphi64, string size is stored as an integer. Then it might be saved as one (a 64 bit value), so it should be read back as one too. What is important here is, that it IS code that makes assumptions about the size of an integer or pointer, and such code is a problem when converting to Win64. In one of the links Nick posted, Danny Thorpe said it would not be a trivial task. -- Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell." - Aldous Huxley (1894-1963) |
Frederick C. Wilt
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-25 08:02:19 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Sheesh!
All these people crying out for a 64 bit version of Delphi! What a bunch of underachievers! EVERYBODY knows that us REAL programmers are holding out for a 128 bit version. 64 bit! Bah... Just a toy... Yep... 128 bit... That's they way to go... Yep... (mutter, mutter, mutter). Frederick C. Wilt |
JED
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2005-01-25 08:32:32 AM
Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!
Hallvard Vassbotn writes:
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