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John Jacobson
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John Jacobson
Delphi Developer |
Re: Thank you Borland!2005-12-09 10:11:09 PM delphi246 Tony Caduto <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes <43997f63$XXXX@XXXXX.COM> QuoteIt's all what you are used to that makes you productive in the long run. ***Free Your Mind*** Posted with JSNewsreader Preview 1.0.4.1789 |
Kris Golko
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-09 10:42:00 PM
Re: Thank you Borland!
Michal Zaborowski writes:
QuoteBernhard Geyer writes: |
Francesco Consumi
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-09 10:44:07 PM
Re: Thank you Borland!Quote>I completely agree. Kylix was a huge mistake: instead of fewer high success... So, if Borland - and us - have to waste time and money in some new way of developing, I'd prefer to invest in a REAL cross-platform technology, and not in transforming Windows apps in Windows+NET apps. IMHO, Kylix wasn't a success, additionally for low penetration of linux in desktop market, because of its poor quality and for CLX instead of VCL, that makes impossible simple recompilation and reuse of thousands of components available on internet already made for Delphi.... Someone said .NET + Mono is the answer. Have you tried to execute some GUI app in Linux + Mono + WINE ? :-) |
Rusic
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-09 10:49:31 PM
Re: Thank you Borland!
As i know, Microsoft has a part of Borland. So i think that they wouldn't want to abondon theirselves :)
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Atmapuri
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-09 11:44:06 PM
Re: Thank you Borland!
Hi!
Quote>port the good ECO to Win32 here is under a very big question mark. Regards! Atmapuri |
Wayne Niddery [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-10 02:36:58 AM
Re: Thank you Borland!
Rusic writes:
QuoteAs i know, Microsoft has a part of Borland. So i think that they -- Wayne Niddery - Logic Fundamentals, Inc. (www.logicfundamentals.com) RADBooks: www.logicfundamentals.com/RADBooks.html "A man is likely to mind his own business when it is worth minding, when it is not, he takes his mind off his own meaningless affairs by minding other people's business." - Eric Hoffer |
John Jacobson
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-10 02:58:05 AM
Re: Thank you Borland!
Rusic <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes <4399a78b$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>
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Kyle A. Miller
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-10 04:19:51 AM
Re: Thank you Borland!
Alan Garny writes:
QuoteI was among those who were very interested in Kylix, but as soon as it came |
Jon Robertson
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-10 04:22:49 AM
Re: Thank you Borland!
Francesco Consumi writes:
QuoteSomeone said .NET + Mono is the answer. Have you tried to execute Very promising IMNSHO. Almost makes me want to install Linux again. It's only been three years since I last looked at it... ;) -- Jon Robertson Borland Certified Advanced Delphi 7 Developer MedEvolve, Inc www.medevolve.com |
Jon Robertson
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-10 04:28:06 AM
Re: Thank you Borland!
Atmapuri writes:
QuoteYou are forgetting that Delphi code can be compiled to .NET Framework, then those that want ECO have an answer: Use .NET. I've not been impressed with ECO from the presentations I have seen. I might find it useful for prototyping, which I could do in .NET anyway. Then I would code the real project in Win32. ;) -- Jon Robertson Borland Certified Advanced Delphi 7 Developer MedEvolve, Inc www.medevolve.com |
David Clegg
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-10 06:25:33 AM
Re: Thank you Borland!
Tony Caduto writes:
QuoteI code in C# now and then, and I don't find .net more productive. easier, and with much less code. Two examples I discovered recently are the BitConverter class (great for working with byte streams), and TraceListener class (for re-directing Debug or Trace output). -- Cheers, David Clegg XXXX@XXXXX.COM cc.borland.com/Author.aspx QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. qc.borland.com "You never know when an old calendar might come in handy! Sure, it's not 1985 right now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?" - Homer Simpson |
Simon Kissel
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-10 06:48:03 AM
Re: Thank you Borland!Quote>...and we would thank you, Borland, if just for a minute you leave the |
Simon Kissel
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-10 06:49:13 AM
Re: Thank you Borland!QuoteKylix was one Reason why the .NET-Support came so bad and wasn't very replaced or moved. This also benefitted .NET. Simon |
Simon Kissel
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-10 06:51:45 AM
Re: Thank you Borland!QuoteYou might as well blame JBuilder, which IMO drained way too much resources Unicode and 64Bit). QuoteI have no personal interest in Kylix, but would very much like to see its |
Simon Kissel
Delphi Developer |
2005-12-10 06:57:53 AM
Re: Thank you Borland!QuoteI am definitely still interested in Kylix, or more to the point, being able already has a market share of ~30% world-wide. From my own business I know that usage of Linux servers has drastically increased in the past few years. Over 80% of all copies we sell of our enterprise server software are Linux versions. Simply because Linux boxes are easier to maintain, more stable and offer far better performance and scalability with server apps. Oh, and well, they are cheap and you there are tons of skilled Linux admins on the job market. When it comes to web applications, multitier-apps, database backend apps and all that, Borland currently is right now giving up a gigantic developing market space, instead of simply re-branding Kylix... Simon |