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Hallvard Vassbotn
Delphi Developer |
Hallvard Vassbotn
Delphi Developer |
Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL2005-08-26 07:16:38 PM delphi257 Many of you have already read about this in this newsgroup, but for the rest of you: hallvards.blogspot.com/2005/08/danny-thorpe-on-unicode-and-vcl.html |
Atmapuri
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-26 08:16:55 PM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
Hi!
QuoteMany of you have already read about this in this newsgroup, but for the Delphi, C++, C#..., .NET 1.1, .NET 2.0. This are all "platforms", which require "special support" for component designers. Is there somewhere light at the end of this tunnel :) Regards! Atmapuri |
Mike Vance
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-29 12:31:27 PM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
Very good news. Danny will come out with a Win64 Unicode VCL. That is
truly super-good news, both for Win64 advocates and the Unicode advocates. Of course, some will complain that Win32 is not scheduled for a unicode update, but that is the breaks, and any advancedment at all should be enough to silence the "Delphi is dead crowd" for a few days. -- Name: Michael A. Vance Favorite Toys: Delphi, Raize Components, TB2k+TBX, EasyTable |
Arthur Hoornweg
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-29 06:05:12 PM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
Mike Vance schreef:
QuoteOf course, some will complain that Win32 is not scheduled Having a 32-bit compiler *without* unicode and a 64-bit compiler *with* unicode would force me to maintain two separate code trees !!!! -- Arthur Hoornweg (In order to reply per e-mail, please just remove the ".net" from my e-mail address. Leave the rest of the address intact including the "antispam" part. I had to take this measure to counteract unsollicited mail.) |
Roddy Pratt
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-29 09:04:38 PM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
"Arthur Hoornweg" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteHaving a 32-bit compiler *without* unicode and a 64-bit compiler *with* machines have become as obsolete as Windows 9X and NT4 currently are. Say five years from now. So a 64-bit unicode system will give us very little until that point. Currently, my need for a 64-bit compiler is driven by the requirement that plugins like shell extensions must be the same bitness as the main application. So under Win64, my shell extension *must* be compiled for 64-bit (unless you somehow run the 32-bit explorer on Windows 64, which seems to have it is own set of problems). - Roddy |
Dennis Landi
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-29 10:36:15 PM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
Roddy Pratt writes:
QuoteI agree entirely. Much as I welcome the idea of unicode and 64-bit native at all if I have a Win64 alternative. I have the opportunity, I will do a one-way port and never look back. I fervently hope we get an announcement that Borland will be giving us a native Win64 compiler in the next two to three years. -d |
Thomas Miller
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-29 11:23:51 PM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
If you had your choice.
Unicode W32 or Unicode W64, which would you choose? I am not like most, I don't need Unicode. I also know that it is slowly becoming the standard, so I don't want my code to become absolute. I can live with writing small sub routines to jump back and forth between Unicode and ANSI. It might be nice if the 32VCL was opened sourced our if Borland would let a group of us work on it as a closed source solution, and update it to do Unicode. During install, you could have a choice of installing either the Unicode 32 & 64 or Ansi 32 and Unicode 64. I would do the prior and fix all my code once. I know my clients would be fine with it. And remember, this is all Danny playing with the technology. I hope the playing becomes a plan for delivery. That would be great. Arthur Hoornweg writes: QuoteMike Vance schreef: Wash DC Delphi SIG Chairperson Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork www.bss-software.com www.cpcug.org/user/delphi/index.html https://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus |
Craig Stuntz [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-29 11:34:48 PM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
Thomas Miller writes:
QuoteIf you had your choice. think that retrofitting the Win32 VCL would be likely to cause performance and other problems in apps designed for that platform. Finally, Win64 eliminates the issue of Win95/98/ME altogether. -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] ?Vertex Systems Corp. ?Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz Borland newsgroup denizen Sergio González has a new CD of Irish music out, and it is good: tinyurl.com/7hgfr |
Thomas Miller
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-29 11:45:20 PM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
Ya, me too.
Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes: QuoteUnicode Win64, in a heartbeat. Wash DC Delphi SIG Chairperson Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork www.bss-software.com www.cpcug.org/user/delphi/index.html https://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus |
Roddy Pratt
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-30 01:26:23 AM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
"Dennis Landi" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteRoddy Pratt writes: We do no server-based work at the present. it is all desktop applications. - Roddy |
Yannis
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-30 05:31:42 AM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
QuoteThomas Miller writes: a new computer. The unicode for VCL64 is an answer to the unicode problem but it will cut considerable my market since I can only use unicode on 64 bit only probably in 5 years this will be an irelevant point but today and for the next 5 years people that need unicode on client or desktop applications have one reasonable choise which can target both 32 and 64 bit hardware and this is 32 bit not 64bit. At the same time there is no security that borland will create a 64 bit compiler or a 64VCL so the answer for unicode support on VCL is Not in the near future. For me this meens nothing and is a smart way to actually say nothing in more than one words. Regards Yannis. |
Donald Shimoda
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-30 05:40:07 AM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
Yannis writes:
QuoteThe unicode for VCL64 is an answer to the unicode problem but it will Donald |
Dave Nottage [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-30 06:38:57 AM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
Donald Shimoda writes:
QuoteDont be so negative. Dave Nottage [TeamB] |
Yannis
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-30 06:48:44 AM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
Donald Shimoda writes:
Quote
better solution for my needs than .NET but some how I prefare VCL over .NET and CLX at this point. Wander why this is? ....hm Regards Yannis. |
Donald Shimoda
Delphi Developer |
2005-08-30 08:02:28 AM
Re:Danny Thorpe on Unicode and VCL
Yannis writes:
QuoteDonald Shimoda writes: |