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Robert Rossmair
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Robert Rossmair
Delphi Developer |
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you2004-12-27 02:53:18 AM delphi24 Hi, QuoteDon't know about that one. Beethoven wrote his most innovative and powerful 41 and finished it at age 44). w3.rz-berlin.mpg.de/cmp/bruckner.html |
Liz
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-27 03:45:44 AM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
Andrea Raimondi writes:
QuoteWell, it depends on what you mean by "secure". If someone got to :) Quote>Given the guy in question, Id rather live in my Dads shed. the newsgroup is valid.. I will try anyway) QuoteInstead of checking for themselves first... typical and sad. with. I dont necessarily know more, but Im generally more determind to find out, I tend to take ideas home and play with them, I tend to look things up, I tend also to remember them, I was once hired to maintain some code.. I then moved on within the company after a few years, yet, 4 years or so after that move, I could still remember exactly where various issues could and would arise, exactly what some error meant to look at, which files were in use at the time.. and it was a system involving around 100 tables each with a unique set of code for each of the 15 clients.. :) If its irrelevant to my current life, Im far more likely to remember it than to post that cheque :) Quote"VMWare" is something I can not afford, either for cost and for hardware you could have run linux on :) QuoteNever seen the mice, but I guess it was real fun to play with like 20 years ago, so an optical mouse was seriously *hot* - Hmm I have one of those mice somewhere - as I have some sparcs, I have a sparc 1 somewhere and the mouse/keyboard to go with.. QuoteP.S.: did you have a nice Chrimbo? <g> alone (for 2 people!!) took 4 hours to cook, so it weight what 8kg?? something like that, plus stuffing and sausages, and potatoes, and and and and.. Hubby imported the dilbert dvd for me :) yay My doggies got a winalot package each (and my emergency backup dog - aka grans dog whos staying with us got one too) and they are very happy, but werent so happy when we didnt let them eat it all at once.. You? |
Liz
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-27 04:41:16 AM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
Andrea Raimondi writes:
Quote>Ah :) ok, Vmware does have a 15 day trial or something, if you lived could use it have it.. I'd give to local schools but no doubt they would moan its not fast enough.. QuoteI'm very proud in this respect and rarely I "ask for help". QuoteNot more than few days ago one of my customers told me he QuoteWould you mind scanning a photo and send it here? :-) QuoteAnyway I am a very good eater and your hubby wouldn't be and claiming Im full. QuoteLOL, I had a very very very nice show of a movie with QuoteI used to have dogs, but one died, the other was given to a poor and be with my hubby and dogs. QuoteWhat a pity my girlfriend couldn't stay with me this Christmas |
Lord Crc
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-27 10:16:11 AM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:48:59 +0100, "Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes: QuoteIt is not a bad job, but it is |
Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft)
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-28 01:41:33 AM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
He didn't :oP
-- Best regards, Serge Dosyukov Dragon Soft ------------------------------------------------- Check Delphi 7 ->Delphi 2005 chart www.dragonsoftru.com Try our DS Plug-in System, now with Delphi 2005 support www.dragonsoftru.com "John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net>writes QuoteI am glad that Rudy has chosen to ignore this |
Leroy Casterline
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-28 09:54:02 AM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
"Liz" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
QuoteI have plenty of ideas, I have the time, but even if I made them Im at the sales/marketing side of things, and they are happy to help other ASP members. |
Liz
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-28 05:39:45 PM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
Leroy Casterline writes:
QuoteHave you considered shareware? The ASP (Association of Shareware |
John Herbster
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-28 08:03:57 PM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
"Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft)" wrote
QuoteThere is a very interesting question which affects all of us ;o) Companies have problems finding and keeping competent and reliable help. They often get stuck with programmers that will create and then refuse to provide maintenance instructions or even good source code for monster programs that can only be maintained by their writers. --JohnH |
Captain Jake
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-29 05:56:13 AM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
John Herbster <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net>writes
<41d14b71$XXXX@XXXXX.COM> QuoteCompanies have problems finding and keeping -- ***Free Your Mind*** Posted with JSNewsreader-BETA 0.9.4.362 |
Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft)
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-29 08:31:12 AM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
There are some comments for this:
it is VERY common because (choose one or more which applies): 1. of genius of programmer and he is so "in the sky" about his work he usually do not care about documenting his code 2. there is no time provided to perform this operation - no milestones, no stages, ... etc 3. programmer who sits on a project for years from some point became careless about comments because he knows code he wrote 4. company do not do anything to enforce this requirement, so it became not important to spend a time on such task 5. company do not do anything to find and keep competent and reliable staff... sometimes management forgetting simple idea that biggest asset of the company is a personal and not a bank account (yes, account is important to keep personal, but it is a personal which fill an account...) * a Small Firm's Biggest Asset - Your People -- Best regards, Serge Dosyukov Dragon Soft ------------------------------------------------- Check Delphi 7 ->Delphi 2005 chart www.dragonsoftru.com Try our DS Plug-in System, now with Delphi 2005 support www.dragonsoftru.com "John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net>writes Quote
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Jim Rowell
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-29 09:56:35 AM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
"John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net>writes
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that allows you to remain or demands your dismissal. Even if you are "essential" to the company technically, you may have to go. Ask any executive if it is hard to replace anyone. He'll tell you that it may be expensive but it is not difficult (personally I disagree with that kind of opinion but it is common). Especially in a large company, people pretty much rate those below them as good guys (assets) or bad guys (liabilities). If you cause problems or can not help with solving problems you are a bad guy. If you solve problems and prevent problems you are a good guy. Mostly the focus of "problems" will have to do with how well you work with others and not your technical abilities. And mostly the "others" will be those people who are in a position to fire your butt. Become enough of a bad guy and out the door you go. You have become a liability rather than an asset. The higher up the ladder, the more important it seems to be that those under you not be a liability and the less important that they be technically great. Technical expertise can be rented when needed or simply done without. A smooth operation that is well in hand is priceless (even if it is not accomplishing anything). I've seen countless great people let go in large organizations because they didn't consider how they were being seen by those above. They felt that "results are all that matter". Too soon they learned that results don't mean squat if those above you don't like you or if they percieve you to attack them or even if you are simply a PIA and it takes up too much of their time worrying about what you are up to. I think it requires a great amount of skill or natural talent of a certain type to do well in a large organization. I don't believe that I'd do very well if I had to face it daily. I am more of an independent and I'm better off working as a contractor. My point is, you have to put aside the thought that just because you are a better developer or coder or whatever, you should have received that promotion or shouldn't have been let go. If you feel you are getting poor treatment, it is because you aren't playing the game properly. And perhaps you (like me) are better served in a small shop or on your own. Note: I am not referring to you John when I say "you". I am speaking figuratively. Jim Rowell |
Captain Jake
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-29 10:52:11 AM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
"Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft)" <"serge[no_spam]ATdragonsoftru.com">wrote in
message <41d1fab8$XXXX@XXXXX.COM> Quotecompany do not do anything to find and keep competent and reliable that can not speak without framing everything like a question and moving their head sideways like a retarded pigeon when they attempt locution. -- ***Free Your Mind*** Posted with JSNewsreader-BETA 0.9.4.362 |
Jim Rowell
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-29 10:58:01 AM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
"Captain Jake" <jake[nospam]@jsnewsreader.com>writes
QuoteIt is especially hard for a company to find and retain competent software |
Captain Jake
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-29 11:13:22 AM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
Jim Rowell <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes <41d21d5f$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>
QuoteThat sounds like it is coming from a fresh memory. <g> line for the software that manages it to be built by the kind of talent that CHRB's can recognize. The last piece of software I built managed hundreds of millions of dollars in cash. You don't want CHRB's saying "Omigod, this guy has three of the needed TLA's we want" -- ***Free Your Mind*** Posted with JSNewsreader-BETA 0.9.4.362 |
Liz
Delphi Developer |
2004-12-29 04:53:55 PM
Re: At what point companies stop to be interested in you
Captain Jake writes:
QuoteIt is especially hard for a company to find and retain competent manager told me that after closing like 79 copies of outlook on the IT project managers machine which was running like a dog and miraculously it was happier "Did xxx tell you how to do that"? xxx being my hubby .. "no" I replied, "He must have done you cant possibly have known that.." and here comes the reason I went.. "All women are useless" ... The HR woman, who looked like someone found her in a dumpster, during the interview didnt tape it, but tried to write down what was being said, she didnt do short hand and the minutes she wrote missed the one important thing that the pompus old soul had said.. Which was "Im not prepared to change what I say in front of her she should be used to it" Of course, the minutes basically came out that I had backed down and that this guy had been fine and it was all in my imagination, even though he had admitted to saying it and other people had heard it. To be honest, it wasnt the "All women are useless" bit I overly objected to, its like the "All women cant park" .. its when its aimed at you personally.. more history for the day was I was medially only allowed to work from 9-12 and had been in the previous day from 9am-3am and it was now 5pm on the second day.... so I was tired, I was working my hide off for this moron.. and while I didnt expect fan fair and lovely dovey stuff.. insults were just too much. |