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2006-10-13 11:25:45 PM
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Dennis Landi writes:
ECO is precisely a distinguishing advantage and can continue to be.
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version of the .Net FrameWork, just like they can deprecated any of
their development tools... they've done it several times already,
they'll do it again.
But the Win32/Win64 API is more than an MS development tool, it is the
basis of the whole Windows Ecosystem. Kill or restrict it, and MS
Windows becomes no more useful than your random Linux distro.
Eric
 

be is fine, but that doesn't mean that you should assume they wont.
 

everybody is free to have his preferences. I do like Pascal coding,
I'll never do C. Period. If Delphi is dead tomorrow I will still be in
business for a few more years maintaing whatever code is left, switch
to whatever Pascal-ish alternatives arises, even do ADA (did some many
years ago) or anything else similar. If these won't pay my bills, I'll
quit programming and start hunting (did this pretty recently, not bad
at all).
Lucian
 

Ingvar Nilsen writes:
should need.
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Wayne Niddery [TeamB] writes:
I think there are some significant features on the native side that
would compel users of D5-D7 to upgrade. I don't believe there are any
silver bullets that will get all of them to upgrade or even the majority
of them to upgrade. But the biggies are: Unicode and Win64. Simon puts
Linux in the mix, which I am somewhat ambivalent about.
But if DevCo puts those two big ticket items in, then I think we can
come back to your question about what is enough to get them to upgrade.
But asking it now, when those two (three) things are in play is, IMO,
working hard to dismiss the expressed desires of the Delphi community.
believe there are too many of them *not* to focus on them. Besides,
conventional wisdom suggests that getting existing customers to upgrade
is much easier than winning new customers.
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Wayne Niddery [TeamB] writes:
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I reply here because I cant find the first post of the thread...
Hi,
Today I received a link to delphiroadmap.untergrund.net/ and
I'd like to express mi opinion.
I've been using delphi for a very long time and been involved in large
projects using delphi. I used to think that it was the best choice and it
was well suitted for most types of projects. Until Delphi 7 borland was
fullfiling my expectations and I was very happy.
Today, most developers that been using Delphi are desperate to migrate
to java or MS.NET. The Delphi market here is gettin smaller as time passes
by and its getting very difficult to find delphi programmers. Id like to
note that I know a lot of people that uses delphi and most of them share my
opinion.
Delphi 8 has nothing new to offer me. Its very expensive and it is not
better than visual studio. It always be one step behind MS and a person who
wants to learn .NET will obviosly turn to C# and Visual Sudio.
In my point of view borland is commiting suicide. Its beign a company
that caracterizes for having great (the best) products but terrible
management. I dont want to be negative but it really frustrates having
invested so many time and effort in a tecnology that it seems to be digging
its own grave.
From the borland point of wiev I'd have never endorsed .net. When dot
net came out if i were borland I'd have developed my own Borland Virtual
Machine or Borland Intermediate language, upgraded the vcl to compete with
the .net framework classes (providing compatibility with java and .net at
the same time), and make everything compatible with the previous versions of
Delphi.
Esteban Calabria.
 

Bob Dawson writes:
be a superior product to VS.NET 2005?
Do you think others that have moved to VS.NET will come back to BDS?
Even if Highlander does better with fit/finish issues?
Do you think there will be enough in Highlander to get new .NET
developers to choose BDS over VS.NET?
I use a DB GUI, a text editor, OxygenXML, TopStyle and CodeFactor. ;)
Not to mention little things that I find invaluable like ColorCop.
To me, using more than one tool is just a development reality.
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Bob Dawson writes:
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Brian,
am entirely oblivious to the benefits and differences between the
DirectX and OpenGL APis.
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turn the gold to chrome
 

marc hoffman writes:
was going to do that.
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LDS writes:
At least MS had the sense to identify a failing strategy and replace it
with a much better one.
Ian
 

James K Smith writes:
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Wayne Niddery [TeamB] writes:
that they can continue to sell.
shrink if you neglect it.
I acknowledge that you were constraining the discussion to Win32/.NET,
but it is important to recognize that .NET isn't the only growing market.
The problem is not that .NET is a bad market, the problem is that their
strategy and execution in .NET isn't effective and isn't working.
So, it would be more relevant if instead of advocating .NET support as
an *idea*, you could spend some time trying to convince everyone that
DevCo's .NET strategy is right. I presume that you're happy with their
strategic direction, perhaps you even have some minor tweaks in mind.
Let's talk about those things, not debate .NET as a viable market.
And yes, I just burned your strawman. ;)
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