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Craig Stuntz [TeamB]
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.2007-10-06 04:39:40 AM delphi245 Tom Corey writes: Quote.Net dependency, while it seems to irrationally annoy certain people Craig Stuntz [TeamB] ?Vertex Systems Corp. ?Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz Borland newsgroup denizen Sergio González has a new CD of Irish music out, and it is good: tinyurl.com/7hgfr |
Dave Nottage [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 05:49:42 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Paul Hughes writes:
QuoteWhen I lose a couple of hours work because the IDE just bombs out or something else forces you to restart the computer without being able to save.. I get nervous if I haven't had a save after 2 *minutes* of working. Anyone else? <g> -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] |
Joe Hendricks
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 05:49:45 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Dave Nottage [TeamB] writes:
QuoteI get nervous if I haven't had a save after 2 *minutes* of working. |
Marius
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 06:55:01 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Dave Nottage [TeamB] writes:
QuotePaul Hughes writes: ;-) |
Alchemist
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 07:35:01 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
"Dave Nottage [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuotePaul Hughes writes: Recently (post D7) I also completely exit the IDE and copy my code to a backup folder every couple hours... I had a project eaten by the IDE where i could recover the source but had to rebuild all the visuals from scratch and reattach them to the code so im paranoid now. I can safely say that I never had any problems like that with TP CP/M on my C128 or T3 for dos... guess thats the price you pay for a visual IDE... although Delphi 7 is still the stability (and documentation) benchmark to shoot for. Quote
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Nick Hodges (CodeGear)
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 07:57:06 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
QuoteI dunno, I have heard that cooties are bugs. Nick Hodges Delphi Product Manager - CodeGear blogs.codegear.com/nickhodges |
Nick Hodges (CodeGear)
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 07:59:14 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Joe Hendricks writes:
QuoteWhen I am 'into it' I never remember to save more often than 30min.. -- Nick Hodges Delphi Product Manager - CodeGear blogs.codegear.com/nickhodges |
David Erbas-White
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 08:25:53 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Nick Hodges (CodeGear) writes:
QuoteJoe Hendricks writes: section of code, saving it once or twice, then having that ah-s**t moment of realizing there was a REASON I had done it the original way... Sometimes I have been lucky and had the recent code saved elsewhere, but sometimes not. I tend to save frequently, but I will also (often) store all files as 'partial' revisions to a temporary directory just to 'be sure'. David Erbas-White |
Ed
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 08:45:32 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Rod writes:
Quote1. Please go to QC, search for Hausladen, O'Harrow, le Riche and fix (Since I have yet to figure out refactoring, I can not confirm nor deny that refactoring requires .NET). Quote3. Take Delphi 7 Help files and add the new items since Delphi 7 (drop MS-HTML2). |
Ed
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 08:49:41 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Bob Dawson writes:
QuoteI don't control the metal and would consider any dependency on it as Man. Dependency on .NET = complicity with the current Man. Since most of us are also dependent on the Man (after all, we do use its operating system), either form of complicity is unavoidable. Quoteviable again until it is self contained and self hosting, including any Edmund Quote
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Ed
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 08:54:56 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Captain Jake writes:
QuoteNo way. That would be a catastrophe. I'd prefer updates that have had installation issues, registration issues, fubar'd help issues, etc. You can not seriously tell me that the whole installation process went through proper testing and QA? In any event, I do agree with you that updates should have to go through proper unit testing and QA. Provided the testing *isn't* done by the user. Edmund |
Ed
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 09:07:34 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Dave Nottage [TeamB] writes:
QuoteI get nervous if I haven't had a save after 2 *minutes* of working. Sometimes I wonder if the IDE would then pop a note saying "Dude. it is nice that you save often, but don't you think you're overdoing it just a tad bit?" Edmund |
Nick Hodges (CodeGear)
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 10:34:34 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Ed writes:
QuoteThe newsgroup was littered with (Your list above doesn't mention the product.) One of the reasons for that is that we don't rush fixes. -- Nick Hodges Delphi Product Manager - CodeGear blogs.codegear.com/nickhodges |
Paul Hughes
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 11:03:33 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
Hello Nick,
I'm sure I can... In no particular order, no QC no's. I'd like my project settings (conditionals, debug info, etc) to remain as specified in each project. Currently, when swapping from one project to another, you seem to end up with an amalgamation of settings randomly accumulated from various projects. When I call action mgr FindItemByCaption to get to a particular menu item, I'd like it to ignore the accelerator chars it might have added when comparing captions so I can actually get to the item. I'd like to design menus with submenus to various depths without the designer losing it is way and throwing an exception. (I think this was fixed to some extent but still isn't quite right). I'd like to disable a tabsheet and have it display greyed out in the page control and not do anything when it is clicked. I'd like the IDE to stay performing at full speed, regardless of how many projects I switch between and how big they are. I don't want it to sit there using 50% plus processor and stop things working for a couple of minutes before I can restart it. I'd like to not think about saving files all the time. When you're into the code it is easy to forget. I think autosaving into history versions is probably the answer to that one. I'm converting a BDE app to DBExpress. I constantly get a failure to init the BDE when I am accessing the TDatabase component. ( Yes, the BDE works just fine everywhere else). That must be at least 5. Regards, Paul. "Nick Hodges (CodeGear)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuotePaul Hughes writes: |
Paul Hughes
Delphi Developer |
2007-10-06 11:13:11 AM
Re: Justified moaning?, I like to think so.
" Tom Corey" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuotePaul Hughes writes: you're focused on a particular piece of code, you can test it more fully. If I get a small update fixing a few bugs, I can confirm that they work in my application, remove any workarounds I might have added, and say to myself 'OK, that is stable and runs OK'. Let's see what's next. If I get a big update that fixes lots of things, it is much more difficult to integrate with confidence because you don't know what other areas you need to be checking for side effects. With my own software, I have tried less frequent, big updates and more frequent, small updates to customers. Everybody's happier with small incremental changes (customers, support, developers, etc) because there's not too much in one go for them to get a handle on it. Regards, Paul |