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David Clegg
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David Clegg
Delphi Developer |
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees2006-09-08 04:55:28 AM delphi218 Rick Beerendonk writes: QuoteI cannot think of one reason for VB(Visual Basic) programmers to choose Delphi. Cheers, David Clegg XXXX@XXXXX.COM cc.borland.com/Author.aspx QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. qc.borland.com "Beer. Now there's a temporary solution." - Homer Simpson |
marc hoffman
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-08 09:39:32 AM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
Thomas,
QuoteI can: It is the closest thing to VB(Visual Basic) they can find if they want to or are -- marc hoffman Chief Architect RemObjects Software www.remobjects.com |
Christopher Burke
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-08 01:55:21 PM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
Richard Foersom writes:
QuoteDave Jewell writes: Luckily, the first real question is Delphi oriented :) |
rambam
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-08 02:13:28 PM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
"David Clegg" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
QuoteRick Beerendonk writes: |
Thomas Mueller
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-08 02:41:53 PM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
Hi,
marc hoffman writes: Quote>I can: It is the closest thing to VB(Visual Basic) they can find if they want to or are between something slightly different, that does not have that and something slightly different that does, what would I choose? (Of course the totally different thing, but that is just me being awkward. ;-) ) MfG twm |
Christopher Burke
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-08 05:21:47 PM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
Christopher Burke writes:
QuoteI'm trying to write 1 or 2 articles myself to start... however my MS |
Michael C.
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-08 10:31:38 PM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
Rick Beerendonk writes:
Quote>So your glass isn't even half full, right? 1) Delphi is faster at compilation. 2) Delphi allows you to work with pointers without {*word*75}ing too much about "safety" issues. 3) Delphi allows you to write procedures AND classes. 4) Delphi is not written by MS. ( If you don't want to support the commercial OS monopoly. ) 5) Delphi never was interpreted. It started out as compiled code. 6) There will most likely be a native Delphi 64 bit product in the future. VB is .NET .NET .NET .... good luck getting a native Win64 product. 7) The language has been very stable. Borland didn't change it on a "whim". That's just a few off the top of my head. |
Dave Jewell
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-09 12:13:29 AM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
"Richard Foersom" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
Quote>You're kidding, right? developers. I have got VS.NET 2003 on this machine, as well as VS.NET 2005, along with Express Editions of C#, VB.NET, C++, Visual J# and Web Developer. They all coexist happily together. And they can *all* install third party components! And they *all* [Note1] work with .NET 2.0! Now consider: I am being asked to give all this up for one (that's one as in '1') single language solution that doesn't install third-party comps, and doesn't work with .NET 2.0, despite the fact that it is been out for around a year. Yup -- those forums are going to be just over-run with Microsoft programmers.... ;-) Seriously, my take is (and always has been) that Delphi is TOTALLY UNbeatABLE for Win32 apps. I can certainly foresee some Microsoft MFC and VB/Win32 developers "catching the vision". But Microsoft .NET developers? Nahhh. They're in hog-heaven already. Personally, if I were Borland I would maybe have given away (gulp!) Delphi 5 instead of the Explorer versions. This would (a) have enabled developers to try out Delphi/W32 development in conjunction with a whole raft of third-party components and (b) wouldn't have any IDE dependency on the .NET 1.x runtime. Dave Note1: Ok, I lied. VS.NET 2003 doesn't work with .NET 2.0, but you get my drift... :-) |
Ingvar Nilsen
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-09 12:59:26 AM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
Dave Jewell writes:
QuoteBut Microsoft .NET developers? Nahhh. They're in hog-heaven already. QuotePersonally, if I were Borland I'd maybe have given apparent for me when I read your magazine articles and your posts here. Maybe an illusion, that only I have.. Sometimes I want to cry "Eureka" reading what you have to say. -- Ingvar Nilsen www.ingvarius.com |
Dave Jewell
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-09 01:49:00 AM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
"Ingvar Nilsen" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteWhy not D7? system, which is an important consideration for those moving from Microsoft Win32 programming tools. QuoteSometimes I want to cry "Eureka" reading what you have to say. Dave |
Ingvar Nilsen
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-09 01:49:23 AM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
Rick Carter writes:
Quote>Sometimes I want to cry "Eureka" reading what you have to say. QuoteThe Turbo products may not be the perfect solution for everyone, but I Ingvar Nilsen www.ingvarius.com |
Ingvar Nilsen
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-09 01:53:04 AM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
Dave Jewell writes:
Quote"Ingvar Nilsen" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteSometimes I want to cry "Grumpy Old Man!" when I read what I have to Ingvar Nilsen www.ingvarius.com |
Dean Hill
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-09 02:07:45 AM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
Rick Carter writes:
QuoteI, for one, don't think I will even attempt showing Turbo to Microsoft to MySQL that he kept having, his biggest gripe was that it did not support .NET 2. He develops full time at the office in VS 2005 and that was a very big drawback for him as he uses Generics etc daily. On a side note, he has compiled quite a bit of his code on Mono without too many problems although the MonoDevelop IDE is not nearly up to scratch. That may be a nice gap for DevCo. Not necessarily the IDE but a "Build for Mono" option. Cheers Dean |
Rick Carter
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-09 02:21:27 AM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft ConverteesQuoteDave Jewell writes: have a short list of things you can not do in Express, or can do better in Turbo Explorer. QuoteSometimes I want to cry "Eureka" reading what you have to say. and hoping to say something good whenever DevCo finally mananges to hit the target with something great. The Turbo products may not be the perfect solution for everyone, but I think it is a big step forward, and I am amazed they've released what they have despite all the PHBs and lawyers at Borland. Hopefully things just get better from here. Rick Carter XXXX@XXXXX.COM Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group --- posted by geoForum on delphi.newswhat.com |
Jon Shemitz
Delphi Developer |
2006-09-09 02:26:05 AM
Re: New Turbo Forums for Microsoft Convertees
Thomas Mueller writes:
QuoteVB dotNET is a new language and therefore does web or group searches. -- .NET 2.0 for Delphi Programmers www.midnightbeach.com/.net Delphi skills make .NET easy to learn Great reviews & good sales. |