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Will DeWitt Jr.
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Will DeWitt Jr.
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Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badly2005-01-17 08:54:01 AM delphi279 Max writes: QuoteVery good point! And a very good indicator! Will -- Want a 64-bit Delphi compiler for AMD64 / IA-32e? Vote here-- qc.borland.com/wc/wc.exe/details |
Max
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 08:56:20 AM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badlyQuote>- new VCL for Win/Linux |
Will DeWitt Jr.
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 08:58:37 AM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badly
Alexander Adam writes:
QuoteLol what a list. Hey lets crash D25k every ten minutes but thanks it you're not suggesting that that is ALL they can do? I mean, at some point new work needs to be done or else Borland stagnates. QuoteNew Vcl? Oh sure, and best let all my good old Delphi Code QuoteOh and operator overloading, the most senseless language Win32. Or do you think it is /less/ confusing that code for .NET can have operator overloading while code for Win32 cannot? Will -- Want a 64-bit Delphi compiler for AMD64 / IA-32e? Vote here-- qc.borland.com/wc/wc.exe/details |
Maxwell Smart
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 09:28:31 AM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badly
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:04:38 +0100, "Alexander Adam"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes: QuoteLol what a list. Hey lets crash D25k every ten minutes |
Alexander Adam
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 11:31:24 AM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badlyQuoteI think it is a given that people want Borland to fix bugs, but surely QuoteI /think/ he meant a Unicode VCL. The VCL is fine, it just needs to be QuoteDelphi 8 introduced operator overloading for .NET. Maybe you missed it? you can have operator overloading and other things. Alex |
Alexander Adam
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 11:31:47 AM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badlyQuote>Lol what a list. Hey lets crash D25k every ten minutes |
Alexander Adam
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 11:32:24 AM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badlyQuote>>- new VCL for Win/Linux Alex |
Dave White
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 01:40:28 PM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badly
"Will DeWitt Jr." <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteMax writes: CPU resources, or at least it didn't at one time), then I will buy into .NET - however, at the moment I think it has a place for internet based apps, but for computationaly intensive apps, it just doesn't cut it. And for those that say that in a few years, when .NET becomes more mainstream, PCs will have much more power - so what? My clients want to use that extra power to shorten their processing times, not to compensate for CPU and memory hungry technology. |
Dmitry Streblechenko
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 02:28:22 PM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badly
How about just fixing some old boring bugs? Like the TLB editor (yeah,
that's my pet peeve). Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP) www.dimastr.com/ OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO and MAPI Developer Tool "Max" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteSince the ridiculous .Net hype Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 |
Dmitry Streblechenko
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 02:31:44 PM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badly
"Alexander Adam" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteGot some news for you.. have a look at Delphi 2005. Its new. Its fresh. |
Mike Vance
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 02:42:36 PM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badly
I am sticking with compiled Object Pascal. I hope Borland keeps
perfecting compiled Object Pascal, otherwise I will stick with Delphi32 for several years, then look and see what the Free Pascal organization is doing. If Borland puts all their eggs in the .NET CLR basket, they might end up with Free Pascal taking away some of their customers. Granted, it would take years for Free Pascal to match what Delphi currently offers, but the Free Pascal compiler is steadily improving... Let's see what things look like 5 years from now. |
Will DeWitt Jr.
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 03:34:23 PM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badly
Dave White writes:
QuoteOffice, Photoshop, or whatever. [...] (not that Office needs a relatively close to the native Win32 editions out now than we are to see Photoshop ported to .NET and maintain it is performance. I agree with everything else you've said. =) Will -- Want native support in Delphi for AMD64/EM64T? Vote here-- qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx |
Will DeWitt Jr.
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 03:39:16 PM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badly
Alexander Adam writes:
QuoteGot some news for you.. have a look at Delphi 2005. Its new. Its 2005 has the most additions in a long while, but it left a lot of things unfinished (operator overloading is missing, for example). QuoteThere's a great and perfect working implementation thanks to TNT. efforts. QuoteNo its absolutely not. Delphi.NET compiles not to machine code but to justify the .NET implementation of Delphi having operator overloading while excluding the Win32 inplementation? I'm afraid your argument(s) doesn't address this. Will -- Want native support in Delphi for AMD64/EM64T? Vote here-- qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx |
Andrew Rybenkov
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 03:39:59 PM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badlyQuoteMy clients want to use that extra power to |
Abdullah Kauchali
Delphi Developer |
2005-01-17 04:18:05 PM
Re: Borland is neglecting Delphi for Win32 badly
Will DeWitt Jr. writes:
QuoteThis was why I brought up the distinction of Photoshop vs. Office-- will not be supported the way the current 32 bit was. If you're an ISV and want to write *native* Windows(tm) applications, .NET is your only legal option when Microsoft "breaks" the API's. In some ways, it may not be surprising that Microsoft keeps direct (unmanaged) API's for itself... and perhaps a few bedfellows that they can easily manage if API's "break". But for the rest of the mere mortals, I guess the .NET porridge will have to do. :) |