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Fred Derf
Delphi Developer |
Fred Derf
Delphi Developer |
Re: Best Blog Entry in Years2006-12-02 05:26:14 AM delphi269 Ron L. writes: QuoteI think it is |
I.P. Nichols
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-02 05:38:41 AM
Re: Best Blog Entry in Years
"Nathaniel L. Walker" writes:
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each product? www.powertogether.com/ Opps, I just checked and they are now showing as sold out but were available yesterday. LMAO. |
Nathaniel L. Walker
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-02 06:28:14 AM
Re: Best Blog Entry in Years
"I.P. Nichols" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
Quote"Nathaniel L. Walker" writes: |
Rick Beerendonk
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-02 07:26:53 AM
Re: Best Blog Entry in YearsQuoteNot to say CodeGear may not risk spreading too thin, you oversimplied his weblog that CodeGear is like Nintendo by being developer oriented. I don't think it is the right conclusion. I believe they can only be like Nintendo by focusing on the the right platforms/languages. Rick |
I.P. Nichols
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-02 09:35:22 AM
Re: Best Blog Entry in Years
"Rick Beerendonk" writes:
Quote> better overall user experience than Sony's PS3. The take away is that it matters which segments of the developer market that CodeGear intends to appeal to and not just that they intend to be developer oriented. The wide diversity and passion of arguments within this ng community indicates there are several segments within the Delphi community. For CodeGear to spread their limited resources too widely (thinly) in an effort to appeal to all these segments IMO will not prove to be the optimum resource allocation. Saying we are developer oriented is a bit like saying we support apple pie and motherhood - a clich? bromide, commonplace, platitude, truism if you get my point. ;-) |
I.P. Nichols
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-02 10:21:58 AM
Re: Best Blog Entry in Years
"Nathaniel L. Walker" writes:
Quote"I.P. Nichols" writes: |
Nathaniel L. Walker
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-02 10:25:36 AM
Re: Best Blog Entry in Years
Yea I missed it, which is almost embarassing given the amount of
time I spend online :) I almost never miss these things. <sighs> - Nate. "I.P. Nichols" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes Quote"Nathaniel L. Walker" writes: |
Jon Springs
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-02 12:37:14 PM
Re: Best Blog Entry in YearsQuoteI only hope that people keep in mind that Delphians and CGers group. They will not have the understanding of the posters being disappointed because their particular problem/wish list item hasn't been addressed. I am getting more and more frustrated by all of the people here who seem to know more about what CG's options are, directions should be, product alignments should be, marketing strategies should be, features should be, hiring practices should be, pricing policies should be, etc. without having any knowledge of the set of operating parameters/constraints/opportuinties that are available to CG. I feel better now. -----Jon----- |
Kostya
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-02 01:20:29 PM
Re: Best Blog Entry in YearsQuoteFair enough - but the question is not just what your needs are - but what QuoteI think it is inevitable that .NET QuoteWin32 code that making a good way to move it to .NET without a complete from native. Straight move produces ugly results. What should be made as a first step is not MOVE but INTEGRATE and have advantage of both approaches. That is what MS did itself and that is why they invented mixed mode compiler and that is what Borland should have started with. If instead they force me to move there will be no trace of Delphi in my new products. I will move to MS since it lets me do combination of native/managed with the least pain |
Lars Fosdal
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-02 08:57:12 PM
Re: Best Blog Entry in Years
Kostya <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
Quote>Win32 code that making a good way to move it to .NET without a complete QuoteWhat should be made as a first step is not MOVE but INTEGRATE |
Nathaniel L. Walker
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-02 11:22:12 PM
Re: Best Blog Entry in YearsQuote>That is the biggest mistake IMHO. Moving is not always appropriate. Quote>That is what MS did itself and that is why they invented Framework. Visual C++ is a mixxed mode compiler. If you want .NET applications, you pass it the /clr switch. If you don't pass that switch, you get a Native Win32 application. Mixxed mode compilers are good because they allow you to link native libraries into an application, as well as make use of .NET Framework classes. And no, P/Invoke isn't really a substitute for a mixxed-mode compiler, should you think of that :) There was a HUGE thread about it not too long ago here. - Nate. |
Lars Fosdal
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-03 01:24:57 AM
Re: Best Blog Entry in Years
"Nathaniel L. Walker" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
Quote>Could you examplify where the paradigms and code patterns are greatly Quote>Could you point me to an explanation of what "mixed mode" is? appeared then as well. Mixed mode sounds like a workaround for a not quite mature .NET platform. What code would you typically write in native mode vs .net mode? How common is the need for mixed mode? Lars F. |
David Clegg
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-03 02:51:31 AM
Re: Best Blog Entry in Years
Jon Springs writes:
QuoteExcellent point Brad. It would be sad indeed if newbies were put off "DISCLAIMER: The thoughts and concepts in this post may be adversely affected by the inherently pessimistic nature of this newsgroup, and may not be a true reflection of the feeling of a majority of Delphi users, who quite frankly have a lot better things to do with their time than hang out in here" :-) -- Cheers, David Clegg XXXX@XXXXX.COM cc.borland.com/Author.aspx QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. qc.borland.com "Oh, I am not gonna lie to you Marge... see ya" - Homer Simpson |
Nathaniel L. Walker
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-03 03:47:09 AM
Re: Best Blog Entry in Years
"Lars Fosdal" <Lars(q)Fosdal.com>writes
QuoteOk, I get it... sort of reminds me of the 16-bit to 32-bit transition QuoteMixed mode sounds like a workaround for a not quite mature .NET extensions it used to facilitate .NET development (Managed C++ to C++/CLI). What code would you typically write in .NET vs Native code (again rhetorical...)? Snip: "Compilers that utilize native code or unmanaged types are called mixed-mode compilers. Mixed-mode compilation enables languages like ANSI C and C++ to run on the .NET platform with reasonable performance. Mixed-mode compilers can pick and choose which services they want to relegate to the runtime and which they would rather implement themselves. This flexibility makes a lot of things possible on .NET that would be awkward or impossible on the JVM. A programmer might want to represent a custom hardware device as a managed class but finds that communicating with the device requires a few lines of platform-specific assembly language. A mixed-mode compiler could implement a method in native machine code without forcing the programmer to go through an interop layer like P/Invoke or JNI. The compiler emits metadata for the method, declaring it as native, and provides enough information to allow the runtime to invoke the method. This lets the runtime call the method directly, rather than going through an interop layer like P/Invoke." More at: www2.sys-con.com/itsg/virtualcd/dotnet/archives/0103/whittington/index.html - Nate. |
Kostya
Delphi Developer |
2006-12-03 04:25:44 AM
Re: Best Blog Entry in YearsQuoteMixed mode sounds like a workaround for a not quite mature .NET |