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Daniël Mantione
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Daniël Mantione
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Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!2007-02-25 09:31:00 PM delphi172 "Relaxin" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes: Quote
strongly suspect that Linux's growth in terms of number of installations, instead of dollars, beats Windows soundly." Qoud erat demonstrandum :) Daniël Mantione |
Relaxin
Delphi Developer |
2007-02-26 08:41:40 AM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!
"Daniël Mantione" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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It may in the future, but not right now. |
Diego
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2007-02-26 11:33:25 AM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!
Gbenga A{*word*73}la writes:
QuoteWith Microsoft romancing with Zend Technologies, and in to paying us money so we don't sue them? And if you use another Linux distro, anything not owned by Novell, then we could easily come after you for infringing on our copyrights/patents? I think that is more how it goes. :) |
Diego
Delphi Developer |
2007-02-26 11:35:16 AM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!
Gbenga A{*word*73}la writes:
QuotePerhaps I should |
Daniël Mantione
Delphi Developer |
2007-02-26 05:23:26 PM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!
"Relaxin" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
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was suggesting that the number of WAMP installations will outgrow LAMP installations. This is totally bogus, for the reason that a Windows server is not necessarily a WAMP server and a Linux server not necessarily a LAMP server. In Apache+MySQL+PHP installations, Windows does barely exist. Just for the record, I think both MySQL and PHP suck; they are easily outpowered by competing solutions. However, both have become industry standards. QuoteIt may in the future, but not right now. versus 5,7 billion), this is probably correctly reasoned, since the average price of a Windows server is easily 4 times the price of a Linux server. Just to illustrate, I work in the HPC business, selling clusters. They run our own Linux distribution based on OpenSuSE or Scientific Linux. A cluster consists usually of a few hundred servers and we are selling 2 to 5 of them per month. Lets say, per month we deploy about 2000 Linux servers and pay zero licensing. If Linux sales are 1,6 billion, that is really huge. Daniël Mantione |
Brian Moelk
Delphi Developer |
2007-02-26 09:36:48 PM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!
Mr. John A. Jackson writes:
QuoteOnce again, Borland, er, uh, CodeGear simply does it better than expected! -- Brian Moelk Brain Endeavor LLC XXXX@XXXXX.COM |
Tom
Delphi Developer |
2007-02-27 04:22:29 AM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!Quote>Why do you think MOST use LAMP instead of WIMP? TCO perhaps? news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html While this site is not Linux specific, it does indicate that Windows servers have less than 1/2 of the apache installations, which was the point of the OP. What do you think most apache installations run on? :-) Your article only makes the point stronger. While showing that Linux does not have as many installed servers (in the workplace), it certainly picking up. (Wake up call for Codegear). So thanks! |
GrandmasterB
Delphi Developer |
2007-03-03 05:09:46 AM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!
"Luke" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
Quote2. Windows memory management and (management style in general e.g. the otherhand, I used to work for a company that had Windows web servers that never, ever came down except to upgrade hardware. Its just a matter of having admins that know what they are doing and know how to pick the right hardware for the job. |
GrandmasterB
Delphi Developer |
2007-03-03 06:40:16 AM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!
"Bob" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteGrandmasterB writes: keep windows servers up and running indefinately. Less skilled admins can't. Its the people, not really the OS. Both OS's (in their server form) are perfectly capable of running for long periods. |
Bob
Delphi Developer |
2007-03-03 07:00:17 AM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!
GrandmasterB writes:
Quote>>eh, to each his own experience. I cant tell you the number of times I've click and shoot for the less capable. ;-) |
Gbenga A{*word*73}la
Delphi Developer |
2007-03-03 07:32:49 AM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!
So what, as long as the person in question knows what to
click and shoot. That should make him/her more capable. Perhaps with Microsoft introduction of PowerShell, maybe Wins Admin can join the league of scripters! Bob <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes: QuoteWell, it is well known that Linux installations require a modicum of |
Wayne Niddery [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2007-03-03 07:43:23 AM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!
Bob writes:
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-- Wayne Niddery - Winwright, Inc (www.winwright.ca) "Bandwagons are like streetcars, there'll be another along in a few minutes." |
David S
Delphi Developer |
2007-03-03 06:21:23 PM
Re: WAMP will beat LAMP pretty soon!
I personally think that virtual hosting will become the norm over the next few years. One quad/quad-core Xeon machine with 32GB of RAM can easily host 40-60 virtual machines. This box will be running something very lightweight as the host, like a minimal Linux distro.
Mac OS X users now have Parallels, and VMWare is due to release their VM Host for OS X "by summer". Parallels just issued an update that has support for something called "Coherency" that lets you run Windows apps right from the OS X desktop as if they're native to OS X. In fact, they're running in a VM. X Windows already does something similar. Wine is making good headway as a solid simulation platform for Windows-in-Linux environments. In contrast, MS has decided to "protect" Vista users against themselves by prohibiting the three simplest / cheapest versions of the OS from being used in virtual environments. Some mumbo-jumbo about how virtual hosting presents more security threats than otherwise. Sheesh! And the price of their server software licenses have gone up. Corporations will continue to work with WAMP because they've got site-wide Microsoft licenses. The rest of us will use LAMP because it's: cheaper; more reliable; takes less time and effort to administer; and VMs will allow the easy migration of Windows services and apps to wherever they're needed. -David "Gbenga A{*word*73}la" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes: Quote
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