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Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.


2003-10-16 10:08:58 PM
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I noticed that there is a possibility that Delphi 8 will be available, but
pricing is not firm. How am I to calculate a check amount when the pricing
is not fixed? Our company would like to make a sizable purchase, but we
will not be doing so on credit cards. We try to cut checks for the firm
software and leave room on the credit cards for the 'show only' deals.
Part of the rational to attend BorCon is based on the ability to purchase
discount software from Borland. If Borland is not facilitating a workable
path to purchase products, I would guess that my employer will loose
motivation to send developers to the conference.
I would define a 'reasonable' path as agreeing to honor Delphi 7 prices for
Delphi 8, or give us the prices now if Delphi 8 will be available, or
automatically upgrade our conference purchases of D7 to D8. By firming up a
price for the Delphi product and making that known now, gives us time to
submit check requests in time for the conference.
The one thing I do know at this time, that the reasonable path is not
visible at this time, and that concerns my employer.
 
 

Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

John E wrote:
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I noticed that there is a possibility that Delphi 8 will be
available..
Available when?
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, but pricing is not firm.
There has been no pricing announced at all.
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Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

In article <3f8ea698$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, XXXX@XXXXX.COM
says...
Quote
I noticed that there is a possibility that Delphi 8 will be available, but
pricing is not firm. How am I to calculate a check amount when the pricing
is not fixed? Our company would like to make a sizable purchase, but we
will not be doing so on credit cards. We try to cut checks for the firm
software and leave room on the credit cards for the 'show only' deals.
Why not buy D7 with software assurance and then you'll get Octane and
D8 when they ship...
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Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

Riiighhht.... Octane, as I read it, includes both D7 *and* Delphi for .NET.
Unless Borland is feeling generous, current D7 + Software Assurance makes
sense to me.
"Leonel @>" <<togniolliuolcombr>wrote in message
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John Wester [Group W] wrote:

>Why not buy D7 with software assurance and then you'll get Octane and
>D8 when they ship...

What if Octane is cheaper then D7?

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Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

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What if Octane is cheaper then D7?
(just stopped lauging a few minutes ago)
I'd be happy with an upgrade price at 50% of the full D8 price, but that's
probably not going to happen either.
 

Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

LMAO ... an upgrade for software being cheaper, sounds like your sniffing some "octane" <G>
Software getting cheaper ... oh thats good :c)
</sarcasm>
"Leonel @>" <<togniolliuolcombr>wrote in message news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
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John Wester [Group W] wrote:

>Why not buy D7 with software assurance and then you'll get Octane and
>D8 when they ship...

What if Octane is cheaper then D7?

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Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

I appologize, I was thinking of Octane (Delphi for .net) and not Delphi 8.
Sorry about the confusion.
So when I read Simon Thornhill at
bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,29952,00.html
I can buy the D7 upgrade with the subscription and get Delphi for .net when
released at the end of this year and get Delphi 8 when it releases ??? as
long as D8 is released before Nov 5, 2004?
"John Wester [Group W]" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
Quote
In article <3f8ea698$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, XXXX@XXXXX.COM
says...
>I noticed that there is a possibility that Delphi 8 will be available,
but
>pricing is not firm. How am I to calculate a check amount when the
pricing
>is not fixed? Our company would like to make a sizable purchase, but we
>will not be doing so on credit cards. We try to cut checks for the firm
>software and leave room on the credit cards for the 'show only' deals.

Why not buy D7 with software assurance and then you'll get Octane and
D8 when they ship...
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John
Life is complex. It has real and imaginary components.
 

Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

"John E" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote...
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I can buy the D7 upgrade with the subscription and get Delphi for .net when
released at the end of this year and get Delphi 8 when it releases ??? as
long as D8 is released before Nov 5, 2004?
That seems to be the plan. I don't quite understand why you can purchase D7 +
S/A and get Octane & D8 for Windows, or purchase Octane + S/A and get D7
bundled + D8 for Windows (both assuming D8 for Windows is released w/in one
year). If that's the case, the pricing ought to be the same, but Octane
pricing hasn't been released yet. Being able to purchase Octane / Delphi for
.NET at the conference has been announced, but not the price.
I plan on confirming the S/A options at BorCon, then buying whatever's cheaper
/ has nicer CD's in the box, but I gave up on cutting a check and am hoping I
can get reimbursed in a timely fashion.
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Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

"Brion L. Webster" wrote
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year). If that's the case, the pricing ought to be the same, but
Octane pricing hasn't been released yet.
Speculative complication: D7 special edition with SA now gets you Octane as
a follow up product only because Octane is pre-release. Buying D7+SA at
BorCon may not--once Octane is on sale, then D7 is only a subset of the
Delphi line and D7 and SA might get you D8.win32, but not DFDN. Again,
purely speculative, but does accomodate all known facts.
bobD
 

Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

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Speculative complication:

That would be evil...
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Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

"Anders Ohlsson (Borland)" wrote
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That would be evil...
I'll remember not to repeat it in non-tech...<g>
bobD
 

Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

But now we are back to the original issue: Why "Delphi for .net" pricing
should be announced now. (see previous post for the correction of subject
with apologies). I would like to figure the price and get a check cut...
please, can we get some pricing? I have to have the check request in by Oct
24th.
"Brion L. Webster" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
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"John E" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote...
>I can buy the D7 upgrade with the subscription and get Delphi for .net
when
>released at the end of this year and get Delphi 8 when it releases ???
as
>long as D8 is released before Nov 5, 2004?

That seems to be the plan. I don't quite understand why you can purchase
D7 +
S/A and get Octane & D8 for Windows, or purchase Octane + S/A and get D7
bundled + D8 for Windows (both assuming D8 for Windows is released w/in
one
year). If that's the case, the pricing ought to be the same, but Octane
pricing hasn't been released yet. Being able to purchase Octane / Delphi
for
.NET at the conference has been announced, but not the price.

I plan on confirming the S/A options at BorCon, then buying whatever's
cheaper
/ has nicer CD's in the box, but I gave up on cutting a check and am
hoping I
can get reimbursed in a timely fashion.

--
-Brion
Team JEDI, 2001 Spirit of Delphi Award Winners
www.delphi-jedi.org
Fresno Area Delphi Users Group
groups.yahoo.com/group/FresnoDelphi


 

Re:Why Delphi 8 pricing should be announced now.

And I am happily humbled.
"Leonel @>" <<togniolliuolcombr>wrote in message
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Ray Andrews wrote:

>LMAO ...

Daaron wrote:

>(just stopped lauging a few minutes ago)

Shawn Pfaff wrote:

>Riiighhht....

homepages.borland.com/davidi/BorCon2003/OrderForm/Delphi.jpg

D8 for .NET + D7 is $500 cheaper than D7. SA is $100 cheaper.

So who's laughing now? <g>

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