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2004-08-31 07:50:11 AM
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Oh, ok
You do not see my point here.
We are not consumers here. We do not buy any services from Borland.
And I am not against "price discrimination" or "market segmentation". It is
just
there are areas where it is applicable and where it is not.
I do not think about professional conference as a place to make profits.
Main intention would be to express company vision, advertise products, show
solutions and only in a last place to make profits. I would say what making
profit here is not applicable, it is more of covering expenses.
Services and goods are not the same as professional events and
presentations, I would think... and I
have nothing against price discounts for products available during
conference. But conference by itself is different.
Ok, I am going to rest here.
DISCLAIMER. I am not trying to say anything bad about Borland, I just worry
about
expectation to be set for next BorCon.
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Ingvar Nilsen wrote:
on sale on eBay as well as elsewhere, even from the same company. So
you can purchase it outside of eBay for a fixed price, or try your luck
on eBay for a better price, but you don't know where the price will
end, or if you will be out-bid at the last second.
Unfortunately all this whining and complaining will result at most in
Borland not offering creative promotions for conference attendance in
the future.
While I can understand the frustration in not getting the best deal
possible (I've been there before) I would have to say that is the way
the cookie crumbles. How do you think those who got in on the second
auction feel? They paid more then the first. . .
Many times with my son I will offer a piece of cake to him and he will
take it, and then I offer one to his younger brother and he comes
unglued because it looks a little bigger. He has a hard time
comprehending that his piece of cake, that he was happy to receive, is
still a good piece of cake even if his brother may have gotten a little
more. He has even thrown a fit to the point of not even eating his
original cake.
You might not want to think about the fact that the speakers get to go
for free.
Let us all just eat our cake and be happy for our fellow developers
that may have gotten an even better deal this time. Let us
congratulate them instead of complaining. We can all enjoy our cake.
 

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Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) wrote:
admissions about a month before the conference starts, and then only
offer them in small batches on eBay. Since everyone waited to buy
their admissions until the auctions then the admissions would go sky
high! Borland would make tons of money and they could afford some
really good advertising for Delphi.
so it is good publicity for eBay.
pay through your travel agent? I get the same service you do when you
fly. Do you hate me too?
year. . . .
Nothing personal, I am just playing devils advocate, and I happen to
think the eBay auctions were a great idea.
 

Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) wrote:
these are incredibly expensive to put on. You might be surprised.
way to get more attendies is to come up with creative ways to market
and sell the admissions.
Heck, if they reached a certain point it might even be in their best
interest to give admissions away just to get more people to the
conference. Hope that wouldn't make you too upset for someone elses
good fortune.
 

Tom Reiertsen wrote:
for a good deal at the auctions. Hopefully Borland will capitalise on
this by discontinuing normal registrations and only letting us get them
via eBay. Those prices could get really high!
Maybe eBay won't be a sponsor next year. Maybe it will be a boxing
glove company and we will have to meet each-other and box it out, with
the winner getting the admission.
Or maybe a gun manufacture will sponsor next year. We will do a shoot
out old west style, meeting in the middle of the street at high noon.
Our hands hovering over our guns, waiting for the other guy to twitch.
The possibilities are endless.
Or we could just hedge our bets and go for the early bird discount.
Maybe they will offer jackets for early birds again. I like jackets.
 

Jim McKeeth wrote:
with beer in San Jose.
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Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) wrote:
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but it is not treated as a profit-making venture. It is extremely
expensive to do a conference like this (I've seen the numbers for a
**much** smaller conference, and they're scary).
I think you're getting a bit steamed up about nothing really. eBay is a
sponsor of the conference this year. Using eBay to sell a handful (and
it is only a handful) of tickets should therefore not come as a real
surprise, especially considering that eBay are not particularly oriented
towards software developers. It seems a very sensible idea for a
promotion. Also consider that Borland and eBay may not have thought of
this idea until recently.
Cheers,
Jim Cooper
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paid, you're likely to get 50 different answers. Airlines play with
pricing all the time (and I mean literally all the time - they
constantly twiddle the numbers. Pricing algorithms for airline seats are
very complicated.)
Cheers,
Jim Cooper
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Jim Cooper wrote:
they'd be delighted if it were profitable. The notion that a business
would purposefully not make a profit where one /could/ be made seems
silly to me.
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wanted to make a profit. I've never had the impression that making a
profit was the point of the exercise.
Cheers,
Jim Cooper
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Jim Cooper wrote:
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Nick Hodges [TeamB] wrote:
needle drop royalties. Advisory board massage and manicure squad. Etc.
-Craig
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] wrote:
the massages to be cut. :-)
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