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2005-03-13 08:46:33 PM
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No change when Together, ECO and even all .NET removed..
Only thing that helps is removing most of the components...
-Atle
 

D2005 could be such a great tool. There have been so many new nice things,
and then you ruin it with such a thing like this.
-Atle
 

The only thing that works as fast as it should, is WinForms. But then again,
all the components I installed is gone when in this design mode. Speed could
be different there also if I had a bunch of WinForm components installed.
-Atle
 

{smallsort}

just my world...
Borland do care about mistakes (a little bit at least), but they have some
strange priorities..
-Atle
 

Atle Smelvær wrote:
can, and what they think affects most people.
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Atle Smelvær wrote:
help you a lot, but it is wrong to generalize that.
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Atle Smelvær wrote:
This is a laptop, Pentium M 1.5 GHz, 512 MB RAM, 30 GB hard disk.
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Does not really help. The main problem is the .Net layer in D2005.
D2006 should run again on native win32.
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So they think delays like this don't affect most people. Seriously, that is
very strange..
I also have news for you. This problem does not just affect switching
between source and form view. It affects whenever you create a new form
(Takes 13 seconds on my computer!). And when switching between the different
forms (8 seconds). Switching between source and form view is the fastest (3
seconds, wow unbelivable).
Another problem. Whenever you are in source view and want to go to one of
the other units, you don't necessary get into the source of the other unit.
That depends on if source view was the last thing you viewed on that unit.
If you was viewing the form, you will get into form view instead. Default
behaviour here should be as before: source view ->any switch to other units
should result in source view on that unit. Form view ->any switch to other
units should result in form view on that unit if it exists.. This is as
logic as it gets, but Borland does not get it anymore.. They don't get
anything.
There is no posibillity at all for me to work with this IDE. It is as
terrible as it can get!
-Atle
 

When you have stalls throughout the whole use of the IDE, you cannot call it
wrong to generalize it. This is something that affects any developer that
use Delphi for other things than just demo's with the default component
palette.
-Atle
 

Sorry, I wrote wrong. I have the Architect edition..
-Atle
 

Then please tell my how you got around this problem?
How long does it take for you to open a new application?
How long does it take for you to create a new form?
How long does it take for you to switch between units, in form view?
How long does it take for you to switch between form and source view?
-Atle
 

Deborah Pate (TeamB) wrote:
(False, True, True, respectively) and had a small delay (less than one
second), when switching from code to design, but none when switching
back. When I changed the setting to the above, I had that delay in both
directions.
When I removed the JVCL, things went considerably faster. It seems that
on each switch, the palette seems to update the items, and the JVCL is
huge.
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Do you have Delphi7 installed on the computer as well?
Other things, special adjustments in XP or .NET?
Nothing would make me more happy than getting rid of all those {*word*193} delays.
-Atle
 

I hope that you compute the time as the time before you can do anything.
Because the form get's visible pretty fast, but it still takes some time
before you can work with it.
-Atle